¿Whaté notó With the hunting aircraft of the FAE and dutyímasters have a supersal fleetónica? We analyze this current issue in Ecuador of the fleet of supersónicos.
Today we are going to immerse ourselves in an issue that awakens a lot of curiosity and nostalgia in Ecuador: super planesóonly of our Force AéEcuadorian area (FAE). ¿Whaté notó, We need them and cuánto costaría
With the video you can see belowón, was generatedó a series of comments and observations on the lack of supers combat hunting aircraftóonly in our noble strength toérea:
Thanks to these comments, was generatedó A DISCUSEón very interesting about the present Supersónico and what for many, dutyíTo be an almost immediate future: Recover supers capacityóunique for the defense of our space toéreo.
¿Whaté notó With the Supers fleetóFAE unique?
To know the news we must go back to the history of the Supers Combat Aircraftóonly of the Force AéEcuadorian area And everything initiatesó on 1977. It is añO, exactly the 14 from January, The 12 Sepecat Jaguar is for land attack, giving way to creationón of the first squadrón supersóNico in our País, which operated until 9 September 2002.
two toñundress themés, FAE incorporates the Dassault Mirage F1 as avión multipropósite, flying in Taura for the first time the 26 June 1979, is 18 aircraft withdrawn from serviceñO 2010 after 31 añin service and más de 33.000 flight hours.
ones toñundress themés and 1982 with the aim of modernizing supers capacitiesóFAE unique, the Ecuador Acquire 12 AIR AIA KFIR C.2 (be updatedían a la Versión at the posteriorly) like your ancestorsón versatile. After 30 añthose of service, They were removed from the fleet in 2012.
Between Kfir and the Cheetah, We'll talk, There is an avión of which very little is spoken or known: Mirage 50 donated by Venezuela. these planes 6 aircraft arrived 29 October 2009 A cord, pen sustainón was very short due to lack of maintenance and spare parts to keep them operational.
Shortly before retirementón of the Kfir, the Force Aérea incorporó 12 Atlas Cheetah C for hunting and versatile functions in 2011. Given the short life you already haveíAn these aircraft when they are acquired second -hand and if you have not planned your extensionóN of the maintenance program, They stopped flying 2019 and the úlast aircraft in operational capacity withdrawaló on 2021, solo 10 añI in service afterés.
Since then the país has not had anyún grandfatherón caza supersónico, generating many comments about the real need or not having this type of aircraft.
We have no Supers airplanesónicos, ¿and now?
We are living in peacetime and without international threats that affect our sovereigníA short and medium term, This as Visión of some readers. It is mentionedó THE NARCO TRáfico, But for this we are protected with the Super Tucano.
On the other hand, others comment that ever isá by más be protected taking into account the story and it is important to have a force toédeterioration to make us respect in situations that could occur, spaghettién points váread.
¿Cuál is the decisionón correct?
I decided itón of recovering supersal capacityóNica is a questionón complex that requires an anácomprehensive cost analysis, benefits and priorities of the PAís. What is undeniable is that FAE has a rich story on aviationón supersónica, And the debate about his future is still open.
Do it or not, You must go for the ANálysis of the indicated points, But mainly the EconomóMico and social based on the situationócurrent n of país. ¿There are priorities máU Urgent and there is a budget? We must respond as citizens.
¿Cuánto costaríTo have Supers hunting airplanesónicos?
To contribute to debate, It is important to be clear about the approximate costs that an acquisitionón Como isá to implyíA for the General State Budget.
The best current reference is that of Argentina, whose force aéa budget of $650 millions of dóLares Para Reactivar Su surgeryón supersóonly with second -hand aircraft. This value is divided into $312 millions of dóLares for the purchase of weapons and spare parts, while the $338 remaining are for incorporationón of 24 F-16 aircraft in flight conditions MáS Uno isáTraining Tico.
We are talking más de $13 millions of dóLares by second -hand units, A quite good value if we take into account the conditions and país of origin. Claro isá, These values only represent a part of what is comingá for Argentina What is training, trainingón, Infrastructure and operational costs to fly these aircraft, and much moreás.
We talk about values higher than $1.000 millions quietly. Of course, these values can increase substantially if aircraft más new or modern. Let's take into account the budget that perú Eastá allocating for this purpose, which exceeds the $3.500 millions of dóhomes.
¿Cuánto costs an avión new hunting?
Among the different market options we have the following list prices, Only for the avión (estimated values and depend on many factors):
- Sukhoi su-27 – Russia: from $20 million per unit.
- KAI T-50 Golden Eagle – South Korea: from $30 million per unit.
- Saab 39 Gripen – Sweden: from $40 million per unit.
- Eurofighter Typhoon – Unión European: from $70 million per unit.
- Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet – USA: from $102 million per unit.
- McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle – USA: from $110 million per unit.
I leave two questions for the debate:
- ¿Ecuador must buy fighter planes?
- If the answer is Sí, ¿thaté Hunting aircraft dutyíTo buy Ecuador?
I read them in the comments.
Well, they could be in 12 a 24 Aviones which could be F-16 second-hand or Aviones Flipen because the neighbors are already looking for combat and Ecuador 1941
Hello Francisco, I understand, But do you consider to have 12 airplanes is enough not to be vulnerable, When in reality what would have been before your concern for the neighbors would be to strengthen all the FFAA and that further increases the billions that are needed?
12 It is better than anything. As usual, A squad was operational while the other remained on land for maintenance. The ideal would be 24. Here, The new presidency will play a key role in negotiations, If there is interest, either with the US. for the F-16 or with another nation, Like Sweden and his Saab.
More than anything, Everything will depend on the budget, There are billions and many needs in the country.
Good day
Unfortunately there is no assurance that the country can be calm without external threats, From there that the acquisition of hunting equipment is needed
My criteria is that a simlar option should be taken to Argentina, that is, second -hand aircraft F16, I understand that Perù has 4th generation and F Russian fighters 16 It could be dissuasive
Greetings
JIMMY
Hi jimmy, Do you consider that just by having hunting airplanes a country becomes dissuasive? On the other hand, Where would these resources be achieved even more with other needs in the most important country?
Hi nicolàs
Not having airplanes is an invitation to Atacame
If we have the planes and the thing would not be so blowing and making bottles
Regarding where to get the money, Unfortunately in my opinion it is an imperative need
Saluds
JIMMY
Hi jimmy, I do not consider having airplanes avoid the "atacame" factor since an army is measured by all its strength, Not only for airplanes and in it, We have a great disadvantage, So if the idea is an arms race, Millions of millions must be invested in all branches of the FFAA.
Yes, But due to the capacity of the small Ecuadorian air space and the minimum possible war scenarios in peacetime, At least should acquire 5 American F-16 hunting aircraft biplaza by joint military cooperation agreement with the US. With mixed capital investment (state and private).
It is an interesting idea of the theme of a few F-16 to maintain an operational supersonic fleet and pilots enabled for that purpose.
Obviously 🇪🇨ecuador, Ecuadorian Air Force must have hunting airplanes, the number the minimum 18 O 24 fighters ideal 48 O 72 fighters, The model one of the 3 or the JF-17 III of origin 🇨🇳chino but changing the technology and armament for one 🇫🇷 French or 🇮🇱 Israelita, Second option the SAAB 39 Fruit or third F-18 Super Hornet of 🇺🇸
It would be very interesting, But and the budget of billions for all those planes?
Nicholas, Dysuasive investment is the most effective, Then we will not be regretting.
F 16 2nd hand to maintain supersonic aviation is not a bad idea, But the lesson in Ukraine, in which U.S.A. has pressed and cutting military assistance to that heroic country is to take into account.
The flu 18 new aircraft and with all the "toys" that accompany it is a viable option and for some 25 a 30 years ahead and without veto worries from other countries. Also negotiate an engineering return and other benefits for Ecuador.
Also take into account the training time of pilots and personnel of mechanics and engineers is some years.
Many issues to take into account, but above all, budget, Where are those billions get? In my opinion, Thinking about aircraft as a deterrent attitude is not enough.
Excellent article, By tradition of Ecuadorian aviation, supersonic aircraft should be acquired, But there is the point unfortunately what maintenance and operation costs are very high in the country's fine situation
I agree Carlos, That is the problem at this time.